Has Nick been trying to find "next Spongebob or R&S"? (2024)

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/tv/nick-believes-key-to-success-is-developing-artists-in-house-107343.html

http://www.adweek.com/news/television/whos-hiding-next-spongebob-139169

Now as much as I love R&S and Early Spongebob, you can't deny the long-lasting impact they made on Nick. Especially R&S.

I believe, like many, that Nick has been trying to duplicate the success that those two cartoons had. I mean, look at the amount of cartoons that have been made that starred two idiotic main characters, typically male, that go on wacky adventures. Don't forget screaming and the spotty backgrounds.

Some of the cartoons are decent imo. Breadwinners, Mighty B, and Sanjay and Craig come to mind. And artistically, their upcoming shows look interesting.

So, what do y'all think?

edited 3rd Jan '15 10:51:07 PM by Teddy

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aren't any company basically always looking for their next big hit? :p

but yeah, in nick's case it's fairly clear. Spongebob has been going on for so long, much longer than it reasonably should have at this point, just because nick can still squeeze money out of it.

I think to a more extreme point, Nick is the definition of a studio stuck in the 90s. All of their shows now airing tend to maintain that mentality of "irreverent gross out humor = Funny" and shows that somehow manage to slip past this censor are either cancelled or carelessly tossed across the network.

Anyway /rant. Do not want to turn this into a hate thread.

You are displaying abnormally high compulsions to over-analyze works of fiction and media. Diagnosis: TV Tropes Addiction.

To which I wonder, were they not trying to find a new Ren And Stimpy in the 90s by commissioning Rockos Modern Life, Aaahh Real Monsters, The Angry Beavers, Cat Dog? Or trying to find a new Rugrats with The Wild Thornberrys, Rocket Power, As Told By Ginger?

This is a problem that goes way, way deeper than you'd think.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

You mean they're not looking for the next Avatar?

They did, and it ended beautifully.

But as much as I want Nick to do better, it's pretty obvious that they rely heavily on childish humor based on farts and garbage and internet memes WHICH IS INTENDED FOR THE TARGET AUDIENCE

edited 4th Jan '15 6:00:35 AM by KingKix

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What makes toilet humor so appealing to kids?

Teddy, what I've seen of Sanjay and Craig and ESPECIALLY Breadwinners doesn't look like something I even would be remotely interested in. Granted, that's thanks to Enter, but I do remember Breadwinners having an episode with Sway Sway trying to give Jenny what is essentially a love drug.

You know, I have to wonder why Pit is obsessed with this site. It’s gonna ruin his life!

I often wonder what would've happened if Micah Wright had not fallen out of favor with the executives at Nick and Constant Payne had become a series.

Kids are naturally immature people.

We're already living through the second time that most of Nick's shows were slapsticky affairs that dabbled in toilet humor. The first time is now being fêted as Nick's Golden Age!

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

I don't even know if toilet humor appeals to kids anymore,but I think it had to do with other cartoon makers wanting to make the next R&S and thought the best way to do it was toilet humor when in reality they were missing the point.

edited 4th Jan '15 8:13:34 AM by ScottPilgrim2013

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Thank You. sh*t like THIS is why we can't compete with anime in general - and in this new generation, being able to do that means everything... And I mean EVERYTHING.

Even if I had different face, I AM STILL DISGRACED.

Which is, again, debatable. How many shows were actually like that? We keep saying this cliché, but how many shows were forthright with their toilet humor?

If anime, even though there hasn't been anything good in it since '95, is beating us I shudder to think of the quality of our cartoons.

edited 4th Jan '15 8:23:01 AM by Aldo930

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

That's entirely subjective.Yeah,there are some sh*tty animes,but there's still tons of great animes now a days.

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If you cross out all the stupidity and meme-like humor, you're then left with something remotely as boring as Arthur, and that's not real creative.

Powerpuff, what's the source of your avvie?

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If you look at anime from the 60s, 70s and 80s and compare it to anime these days you find that the animation is actually more fluid.

But to get back to the thread's point - I don't even really see what's wrong with Nick trying to find "the next Sponge Bob." For all I know, they could be meaning that it'd be a big hit like Sponge Bob is.

edited 4th Jan '15 8:30:14 AM by Aldo930

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

I really don't what could be considered the "new Spongebob" on Nick.Esp. since Spongebob is still on.

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it's a fanart drawing of a character from a webcomic called Powerpuff Girls Doujinshi

edited 4th Jan '15 8:33:49 AM by powerpuffbats

You know, I have to wonder why Pit is obsessed with this site. It’s gonna ruin his life!

Haven't they already found it? They make as much money as Sponge did during the early 2000s.

Oh, I loved that comic!

edited 4th Jan '15 8:34:58 AM by KingKix

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I thought "the new Spongebob" would be something similar to Spongebob show-wise.Not marketing-wise.

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I know this is off subject, but - yeah, as much as I don't care all that much about Breadwinners or Sanjay And Craig... Arthur sucks ass. We do not need a cartoon like THAT on THIS channel, IMHO.

Even if I had different face, I AM STILL DISGRACED.

I know this is way off topic, but I even made a Mii of Bell to use in Smash Bros. Show how much I love that comic.

I said before, neither Sanjay and Craig nor Breadwinners are appealing to me. The nicktoons that I like, or have interest in, mostly come from 1991-2005 (basically, from Rugrats to Last Airbender). I should probably check out Korra and TMNT 2012.

You know, I have to wonder why Pit is obsessed with this site. It’s gonna ruin his life!

they're not great, but I find myself still watching them. It's a good time waster

Yeah, Arthur's pretty bland..

to answer someone's question, when I say that Nick's trying to find the next Spongebob or R&S, I mean that they've been trying the same formula those two cartoons had, thinking that'll automatically generate the amount of success and fame. Maybe Nick should, I don't know, try something new..? At the time R&S came out, it was very different from the cartoons being made around the time. And all that show really was a throwback to fun cartoons from the past...with some toliet humor and creepiness thrown in there.

Then again, they could always copy anime or make 5 new reboots. That seems to get popularity these days.

edited 4th Jan '15 10:27:27 AM by Teddy

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I actually never really watched that show as a kid. If I ever had an experience with the characters it would've been the Living Books version...

As I said before, though, Nick was doing this in the 90s. They were approving shows like Rockos Modern Life, The Angry Beavers and Cat Dog to get a new Ren And Stimpy, and approving more Klasky Csupo shows to find a new Rugrats.

Well, they tried doing something animesque already, and we all know where that went.

edited 4th Jan '15 10:37:14 AM by Aldo930

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

the show took out a lot of the creativity the books had. It's like a 70s or 80s Soap opera with animal costumes lol. Mixed in with the cartoon's very special episodes about allergies, autism, abuse, divorce, etc. Yeach, because that DEFINITELY brings the ratings in.

you're right about Nick always been trying to duplicate the success of popular shows, but the ones you mentioned at least had some distinction between them and were actually trying. Though, the two main duo has always been popular..

I can't even call avatar American made. It's so influenced by anime that it should have been made in Japan lol.

edited 4th Jan '15 10:49:20 AM by Teddy

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Then again, it's lasted for so long, someone is watching...

In any case, tho', I don't think they would have been greenlit if Ren And Stimpy wasn't such a massive hit.

I said it earlier, but if Micah Wright hadn't gotten on Nick's bad side, Constant Payne would have been Nick's resident action adventure show. Think of that alternate universe.

edited 4th Jan '15 10:52:28 AM by Aldo930

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

Then again, they could always copy anime

Hell, they could have ended up becoming the new Toonami if they played their cards right.

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